
GB News host Andrew Pierce had to step in and beg his guests to "please calm down" as they clashed over illegal immigration and small boat crossings. Guests Carole Malone and Jonathan Lis had a war of words live on TV over the migrant crisis, which Lis insisted is just a "problem" and will "not lead to societal collapse".
On the show, Carole fumed: "This scheme is never going to work, we knew weeks ago it was never going to work. It's going to be 35,000 in, 2,000 out maybe. The 50 in, 50 out... we know the 50 here are going to make human rights claims and be held up here. They're not going to go. We knew that two weeks ago and now it's been confirmed it's happened.
"The bottom line is history has taught us there's going to be societal collapse with the amount of people coming in." She went on to say: "There's no deterrent here. There was a figure today that it's 16 to one against it working, that's a 6% chance that you'll be one of the people to stay-"
Jonathan cut in to ask her: "So that's not a deterrent?" as she insisted: "Let me finish the sentence!"
Later, things got even more heated as she asked Lis directly: "Do you not think it's a crisis?" only for him to respond: "It's a problem. 25,000 people arriving on boats is a problem, it's an issue that has to be dealt with, it is not societal collapse. Nigel Farage is playing this up-"
He was cut off as Carole cited the figures: "50 hotels of the 250 hotels we have migrants in were looked at and from those 50, 425 criminal offences have been committed. Of those, 109 were violent offences, 40 were sexual offences and four alleged counts of rape."
Lis hit back: "Asylum seekers are human beings, human beings do do bad things sometimes. You can't expect people- No, Carole, not everyone who comes over here is going to be a saint-"
Malone cut across him to fume: "You can't be allowed to say it's okay to rape someone! How dare you." As Lis exploded: "How dare you say that, I would never say that-"
A stuttering Andrew Pierce tried to calm the argument, begging: "Hang on, can we calm down?" but Lis carried on: "I would never say it's okay to rape. What I'm saying is some people who come here will commit crimes and they should be dealt with in the normal way. It doesn't mean we have to close down the asylum system."
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